Greater Phoenix Tea Party Patriots

Patriot Groups throughout the Maricopa and North Pinal County area.

The challenge before Arizona conservatives--overcoming the progressive thugocracy of our own GOP--sometimes seems insurmountable, but rest assured they will listen to us sooner or later, because they will learn that without us, they will win few elections.

One of the things we need to do in fighting that war is to press our own state Republican committee members to fight for a new RNC chair who will embrace the conservative branch of the party, not spit on us.  They will be Arizona's voices in voting to replace the failed Reince Priebus as national RNC Chairman.  I will be sending an email today to our committeemen, Bruce Ash and Sharon Giese, and to the state chairman, Tom Morrissey, asking that they support a candidate who has demonstrated a commitment to the U.S. Constitution and to conservative values, and who better represents the beliefs and interests of the stte of Arizona.

If you would like to add your voice to the chorus, you can find the names and email addresses of these individuals at:  http://www.azgop.org/azgop-leadership/state-party

It's time to find out whether the Republican Party is really interested in winning elections or not, because without us they can not win.  I think we should give them the chance to make that decision before we pull the plug on them altogether.

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Jeff you make a good point, however I do not feel the RNC will listen to the conservative wing of the party until it hits their fund raising, ie; pockebook.  For 20 some odd years I was a regular financial supporter of the RNC...After the 2008 disaster I changed my affiliation to Independent and wrote the RNC stating no more money from this guy. I told them why as well. Now my contributions were beyond insignificant, but if enough of us do it...that will get their attention.  It is a good ole boys and girls network and to get in the network you have to subvert your values and principles to align with the moderate or Democrat Lite majority in power. If that does not work then a Third Party must be created.  The republican's can't get elected as Democrat Lite, so starting a Third Party would not ensure more Dems are elected than now.

 

I agree completely--we have to hit them in the coffers in addition to the imminent threat of splitting their vote with a third candidate.

Jeff,

I have, for several days, been trying to make contact with quite a few people in the Tea Party seeking some direction on how to become more involved, and have not recieved any replies.  Is the Tea Party still active in the Valley?  Has it devolved to an online social networking club?  My e-mail is dtb425@cox.net if you would care to respond.   Thanks.

Ok, then how do we force a Constitutional Conservative on the Republican ticket?  The RNC just shoved Romney down our throats.  Everywhere I look, the people are sick and tired of both parties.  I wouldn't have advocated this four years ago but maybe now a third party is the answer.

i agree with Dan Bruner, I to have tried to contact Tea-party groups, no luck! !  I believe the RNC has failed us, and not any better than the DNC.  We lost this election, I feel, due to the illegal vote, how do you fix that?  We are in such trouble! !

karen, just minutes ago I finished speaking with one of the local Tea Party leaders. I sent a friend request to you, if you friend me we can talk. Thanks.



karen gevaert said:

i agree with Dan Bruner, I to have tried to contact Tea-party groups, no luck! !  I believe the RNC has failed us, and not any better than the DNC.  We lost this election, I feel, due to the illegal vote, how do you fix that?  We are in such trouble! !

Dan, I have been unable to get any response from the so-called "Arizona Tea Party Network" at http://arizonateaparty.ning.com/.  My membership request has been pending there since November 7th, and several direct emails from me have failed to draw any respoonse.  I would consider them DOA.

I have had much greater success with Teaparty.org, which defaults to http://teapartyorg.ning.com/.  That is their national level group, and it is very active.  They also have state chapters.  I would use that organization for national level discussions of strategy, and this one for local action based on a combination of national strategies and local needs.

Except for some trolls, the discussion at http://teapartyorg.ning.com/ is generally pretty well thought out, some emotional responses too.  A big part of the discussion there has been over the formation of a third party.  I personally believe that shoud be a last resort--you can't simply ignore human psychology and jump into a third party thinking tens of millions of voters are going to leap into it right behind you; a third party on a national level is suicide for the freedom movement in my opinion, because you instantly marginalize yourself at worst, or at best guarantee the Commucrats an easy victory in every race where we field a third party candidate.

In my opinion we have to continue infiltrating the GOP with the aim of taking them over.  Remeber the progressives/c0mmies didn't give up after a few defeats--they kept plugging away, kept moving that Overton Window to the left one small step at a time.  We need to do the same thing.  We've already taken a number of GOP seats at the national level, and I believe the violent reaction of the GOP against us indicates just how scared they are of our potential power.

We need to work as hard as the left and harder to find strong candidates and get them on the primary ballots, and to try to educate the public locally about these candidates and the abysmal records of the so-called "Republicans" we need to unseat.

Some of us are way beyond Tea Party because we learned early on that the Republicans for all intents and purposes took over the Tea Party groups in Arizona.  I was involved, but for two years I kept hearing the same tired rhetoric about no chance of a 'third party' making it in politics, so we all had to go Republican, blah blah blah.  So far that has given us McCain, Romney, and Flake.  Ick--kee!

By labeling yourself conservative/Republican you fall into the same old trap of defining party lines and pigeon-holing yourselves.  They are banking on you giving them one more chance and holding to the party line.

What needs to be done is a convention of Tea-Party followers.  There all can be discussed and maybe come up with  a  plan.  What say you?   

Yea let's get them all in one place, I got a few things to say to em and I want to make sure they get the same message at the same time so there is no misunderstanding.

There ain't no such thing as a Tea Party Follower, they are all leaders. 

Believe me, I'm no "republican", and I'm not advocating "going Republican".  I'm talking about kicking the crap out of the RINO b*stards and taking over the whole infrastructure and voter base of the Republican partry.  You can't short-circuit human psychology just because all talk and no action has let the RINO's have their way.  I'm tired of talk too--I want action.  I want to see plans and petitions for candidates and networks and partnerships with conservative organizations that can put all the Tea Party outrage into real motion.

Garn the Pict said:

Some of us are way beyond Tea Party because we learned early on that the Republicans for all intents and purposes took over the Tea Party groups in Arizona.  I was involved, but for two years I kept hearing the same tired rhetoric about no chance of a 'third party' making it in politics, so we all had to go Republican, blah blah blah.  So far that has given us McCain, Romney, and Flake.  Ick--kee!

By labeling yourself conservative/Republican you fall into the same old trap of defining party lines and pigeon-holing yourselves.  They are banking on you giving them one more chance and holding to the party line.

How many years does it take to prove that third party candidates don’t win?  What is the percentage of representatives that are not either Republican or Democrat? 

If everyone in the teaparty were to actually consolidate their efforts toward taking over the GOP it could be turned into a true conservative party.  But no, some people keep pushing a third party (which only dilutes the conservative vote ensuring election of liberal representatives).  Some don’t do anything but sit back and complain about what the GOP should or should not be doing (instead of getting off their duffs and doing something about it).  Others say they are conservative but constantly want to push social issues into politics.  Any time a Teaparty Patriot gets involved in trying to take control of the GOP, they are derided and accused of being taken over by the Republican Party and having “to subvert their values and principles”.   WELL GUESS WHAT?  YOU CAN BE BOTH A TRUE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AND A TEPARTY PATRIOT AT THE SAME TIME!

You can’t expect to have a conservative GOP if you are not willing to make an effort to get actively involved in the process.   It’s not going to be easy.  It may take years.  One thing I can guarantee, if we don’t work at it – it can never happen.

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