I don't have a problem with immigration, I have a problem with illegal immigration. Most country's on this planet have some form of immigration, and in country's such as our's, it not only helps the immigrant, it also helps the country by bringing workers that are needed. The problem, is that the number of immigrants has to be controlled, that is just a fact, I don't expect France or Spain to allow me to come to their country as an electrician, and take a job that a member of their country already has, so as to put that said person out of work. What kind of person would that Spanish official be to support such a situation. Well, I will tell you, He would be the kind of person as we have elected time, and time again in this country, A lot of our politicians in this country will allow a citizen of another country to come here and put our citizens on the street, simply because it will benefit them politically or financially, So why do we allow this. I don't know, you tell me!

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Comment by DHP on April 2, 2010 at 9:21pm
Paul, in your first comment, you came down on American workers real hard, I am one of those American workers, and I work with both Americans and illegals from all over this world and I can tell you that Americans work just as hard if not harder and in the harshest conditions as anybody on this planet. In the last 40 some odd years that I have been working I have seen countries all over the world call us and pay American workers to come to their country and do what they are unable to do, it's happening today as we speak, I am proud to be an American worker
Comment by DHP on April 2, 2010 at 9:09pm
LET'S GET FIRED UP AND STOP AMNESTY JUST LIKE WE DID IN 2007, AND THEN WE CAN SCALE LEGAL IMMIGRATION WAY BACK SO THAT ALL AMERICANS HAVE JOBS BEFORE IMMIGRANTS GET THEM. THAT'S WHAT EVERY OTHER COUNTRY DOES. THIS COUNTRY HAS A RESPONCIBILITY TO SERVE THE CITIZENS FIRST AND THEN THE IMMIGRANTS IF NECESSARY. CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES AND ESPECIALLY YOUR SENATORS AND TELL THEM, NO AMNESTY AND CLOSE THE BORDERS
Comment by Paul Fetters on April 2, 2010 at 10:58am
@DHP
I understand where you are coming from. But this issue started long before the brunt of this recession smacked our country in the face. People (in general), did not want to work jobs for minimum-wage, nor did they want to do their own landscaping or (if they owned a large farm) do their own harvesting in the heat of the summer.
You are correct when you say that people are going about it much differently now. They are trying to save money wherever they can. BUT, keep in mind that employing an army of illegal immigrants is STILL the cheapest solution for many businesses out there. They can pay them whatever they feel like seeing as the illegal has little or no recourse. They can deny them any type of insurance. There is absolutely zero job-security for the illegal.
If another illegal-immigrant shows up and offers to work for a penny less per-hour, they're screwed.

I say we "lend" our prisoners to the various agricultural industries to pick all the fruit and produce. Rent out these guys who are paying their debts to society for pennies on the dollar.
It would allow a struggling agricultural community to utilize legal labor.
The DOT uses chain-gangs. Why can't they rent some prisoners to private-industry as well?
I would even say that you could make it possible for private citizens to purchase community-service time from the state as well. Essentially "community-service" is just state-owned/owed time. Why can't a private citizen purchase some of that time and have the guys build a new patio or landscape their yard?

Keep in mind these are simply loose suggestions. But I think there could be plenty of viable options for businesses to refrain from hiring illegal-immigrants while keeping their costs down as well.
Comment by clemintine on April 1, 2010 at 3:52pm
teen unemployment is significantly impacted by illegals that get hired to flip those burgers. for many teens their first job is in some type of food establishment, typically fast food.

as a nation we must gain control over our immigration policies and numbers. we need to pass legislation/constitutional amendment to correct the court's misinterpretation of the 14th amendment. there are numerous documents supporting the belief that it was never intended to cover children born to non-citizens. our borders must be secured and our laws upheld.

we have a population that illegally enters this country with the belief they have every right to do so. we have immigration groups that teach and believe the southwestern US belongs to them. they are vocal regarding this and have used it to intimidate American citizens. it will only get worse if not dealt with.

our tax dollars were supporting school curriculum, in southern arizona, that taught the principles of la raza and animosity towards the USA. the state superintendent, horne, brought it to the legislatures attention and a bill was working it way through the house. (as of the end of feb 2010) HB2281
Comment by DHP on April 1, 2010 at 1:12am
You've got it all wrong, first of all during this recession, I've seen Americans all over this country, willing to flip burgers. the problem is that employers have used the illegal immigration situation to stagnate or lower wages down to a poverty level, same with a lot of other job classifications. The system that businesses set up, brings the cheap workers here at poverty wages and then the community organizations show the illegals how to add public welfare to make up the difference, so the illegals can survive. Bingo you pay the difference with your taxes. The illegals cost the taxpayers over $96 billion. every year in assistance, after you count the taxes they pay (income tax, sales tax, etc....)
Comment by Paul Fetters on March 31, 2010 at 8:04am
America has turned into a nanny-state, and a lot of the population are to lazy and/or think too highly of themselves to go and get a minimum-wage job flipping burgers. They would rather just go on welfare and wait for the free handouts that taxpayers are getting raped to provide.

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